Light wallet bugs

multifolio 2017-02-21 21:21:27 UTC #1

Bug 1:
Copy paste a seed(1) into the login form, make a change to the seed to create a new seed(2), do this inside the form. Copy paste what’s in the form into a text editor. You will see its still seed(1).

This also applies to the Claiming Process which is striking.

I’m trying to claim right now. When I was asked for a new seed I changed the third letter inside the form. After getting the success message I logged into the new seed. Till now my balance didn't show up. For error spotting I was checking my old seed by re-doing my seed change process. To see the actual seed, I copied into the text editor, then I saw it’s still the old seed.

Bug 2:
Cut Command doesn't work at all

raganius 2017-02-21 21:44:43 UTC #2

Maybe I did not understand the issue you are reporting, and I have never tested that procedure the way you say that you have done, but really, why would you want the info (passphrase dots) to be accessible (cut/copy/paste) from the seed field?

Why would you want to edit/change/modify your seed inside the secret seed field, when you are not able to properly see what you are doing... see the character you are editing in any way?

I wonder if this is usual procedure for other people (as I have said, I have never considered doing so).

Why not edit it in a regular text processor, as it would be expected?

I may be wrong but, if I understood what you have reported correctly, I don't think "not being able to use the secret seed field as a text editor" is a bug at all, but actually it's a feature.

Sorry if I did not understand your report correctly.

Anyway, you don't really need to enter a different seed inside "new seed", when claiming, unless your old seed is malformatted.

bahamapascal 2017-02-21 22:04:24 UTC #3

@multifolio The thing is, as Ivan sad, that you can't copy/cut out of the seed form at all.
So if you paste seed(1) into the form, edit it to seed(2) and "copy" paste it to a text edditor, then you still have the original seed(1) in your clipboard.
Changing of a pasted seed within the seed form should work tough

multifolio 2017-02-21 22:07:52 UTC #4

You are right. My procedure is unusual. The personal reason for doing so was to not show/expose the new seed at all. In the end I did copy-paste it into an editor but I actually try to avoid that.

For proper changes you can be guided by the starting or ending digit of the seed by moving your cursor. Changing one digit is already enough for a secure seed. Plus when claiming you can double check your changed seed.

Beside entering the wrong seed what could also be the reason for 0 balance on the new seed?

multifolio 2017-02-21 22:09:03 UTC #5

but why do you have those options shown available then?

raganius 2017-02-21 22:37:07 UTC #6

I have never used the GUI for claiming, so someone more experienced could give you a better answer. But I believe the claiming transaction will show on yout wallet as "pending" first, until it is confirmed on the tangle. Only then, after confirmed, your balance will show.

So it might be a matter of waiting (it might be a good idea to check it at iota.cool as well, if you have it's hash so as to locate it there).

bahamapascal 2017-02-21 22:48:37 UTC #7

Beside entering the wrong seed what could also be the reason for 0 balance on the new seed?

Did you check in the history if there is a unconfirmed transaction?
The claiming will take a bit of time, did you wait for the PoW to finish?

but why do you have those options shown available then?

For everything accept of the seed.

multifolio 2017-02-22 11:28:59 UTC #8

The claiming transaction showed up. It's still pending like every other transaction. How long should I wait? Doing the claiming process again gives me 'empty seed'.
The hash is BCYPXDOOVQ9DKNWOYPVDXHSYWSIXOUIVHEDEDPFITOGKWPT9UVKCX9SRHNVCGCZSLZP9ZNZVTGPREVQEU

iota.cool doesn't respond after entering an address/hash or I'm doing something wrong. Thanks in advance.

multifolio 2017-02-22 11:33:21 UTC #9

Everything is pending. Im using the light wallet and the node from iotacommunity.
Will it confirm or is it already to late? I can't redo the claiming process as I get 'empty seed'.

I waited till I got 'claim successful'.

bahamapascal 2017-02-22 14:53:59 UTC #10

The claiming transaction showed up. It's still pending like every other transaction. How long should I wait? Doing the claiming process again gives me 'empty seed'.

Replay the transaction. Might have to do it several times.
Though its strange that a claim that was sent from the coordinator doesn't get confirmed right away...

raganius 2017-02-22 15:09:46 UTC #11

What I have already seen happen is the user claiming, and the first claim was successful, but he (forgets/gets confused/thinks the first claim was not successful) keeps trying to claim again and again, and to ever diffents seeds, and (as the first claim was already made) the following claims won't happen again.

I saw users claiming to a seed and looking for the balance in another seed.

Please check all the seeds you have, maybe your balance has been claimed to some other of your seeds, then you are looking for your balance in the wrong place.

As Pascal said, the claiming procedure is "dumb" it does not know if your claim has been already made and if so, where the balance was sent to: it only knows that "the pre-claim seed has a total amount os iotas".

I have seen identical situations, and in the end the user found out that his issue was caused by his own "confusion" regarding his seeds and, at last, his iotas were safe.

multifolio 2017-02-23 16:22:37 UTC #12

I will replay. Thank you for advice.

multifolio 2017-02-23 16:25:10 UTC #13

I can see that confusion definitely happen. In my case Im pretty sure Im checking the right seeds. Thank you for your input.

multifolio 2017-02-23 16:35:37 UTC #14

My tokens just popped up! First claim successfully done

raganius 2017-02-23 17:03:01 UTC #15

Really glad to know!

Jabba 2017-02-25 09:28:38 UTC #16

I claimed to two seeds. The first one worked fine. The second one said successful but they are not on the seed I think I pasted into the claim box.

It is possible I edited the text that was in the box for the second seed... adding a digit to distinguish it from the previous seed, as the guy above said, to make sure this one was never pasted or written into text form anywhere. It was a few weeks ago now though so I can't remember exactly.

Will we soon have a version where I don't need to generate addresses to see the balance? It will be a hell of a lot more time consuming to check all the possibilities if I have to wait for one or possibly several addresses to generate to know if that was the correct seed?

Any advice appreciated. I'm a bit of a tech tard and have never used the test network or nostalgia. Really I'd like to at least know that I could generate just 1 address to see the balance rather than possibly having to generate several or wait for hours for it to show up. Until then it's not even worth me trying to search for them as I could skip over the correct seed without seeing the balance.

bahamapascal 2017-02-25 11:05:13 UTC #17

Was there already a snapshot in between? Because if there was no snapshot, you should see the balance in the seed without generating addresses.
If you claimed before the last snapshot, then yes, you need to generate a address to see your claimed balance.
There won't be a version any time soon where you will see the balance without needing to generate a address afaik.
But if you know which address your funds where send to, then you can login to your seeds and check if the first address of the seed matches the one you are looking for. The first address of a seed (which is where your funds should be after claiming) is visible in the GUI without needing to do the PoW.

multifolio 2017-02-25 11:21:13 UTC #18

If you just added a digit at the end you might just claimed to the original seed because seeds longer than 81 get cut off at the end. If you added the digit at the beginning you would need to try out the 27 possibilities.

Jabba 2017-02-25 12:09:29 UTC #19

This was several weeks ago, so I presume there must have been a snapshot in the meantime.

Is it now or will it ever be possible to just generate one address and see the balance instantly, or might there always be the case where I'd need to generate several times to get it to show? Even non the seed that worked I had to generate three addresses before the balance showed up.

How could I know that after a claim which never appeared? I had a seed, I claimed to a new seed. I have no way to find any address do I?

Gah, this is infuriating. I've been in crypto for 2 years and never made a mistake with any keys or pws. So annoying.

bahamapascal 2017-02-25 22:27:50 UTC #20

Yes, last snapshot was like 3 weeks ago I think.

In some ways it will be optimized, so that you probably just need to generate one address after snapshot. But I believe you will always need to generate at least one address for balance to show up.

Did you make a outgoing transfer from that seed? Because I would have thought that you would just need to generate one address if you just claimed and did nothing else with that account. But Maybe I am wrong...its too long ago that I claimed my Iotas, and that was also still back then without the GUI.

If you know the exact amount, you could finde it by searching all addresses and see if you finde one that matches your balance. If you know the exact balance, I can help you find the address.

Don't worry, if its just one digit you don't know of your seed, then you should be able to recover your tokens.